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Looking for Fanuc password
I have a Harrison 1330 Alpha 'S' CNC lathe fitted with a Fanuc 21it control.
I am looking for the access password that allows editing of the ladder.
I am led to believe this password is done by the OEM..
I haven't gotten any help from Harrison, hoping someone here might know.
I am not trying to steal any features or turn on any functions of the control that i did not purchase..this pertains to
the ladder and my ability to edit it.
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Your in box is too full.
I only had a likely suggestion..
Also try the google search
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q..adder+password - Diamond
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Do you have the additional hardware that is needed to edit a ladder at the control? IIRC there is a separate PMC/RAM module that had to be installed in the control to do that.
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I hope to do off the control edit..I have a copy of the Fanuc Ladder III 5.7.
Pretty sure the 21it does not require re-burning an e-prom to change the ladder, just have to reload to the F-ROM.
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Ah.. that makes a difference.Originally Posted by AlfaGTAI hope to do off the control edit..I have a copy of the Fanuc Ladder III 5.7.
Pretty sure the 21it does not require re-burning an e-prom to change the ladder, just have to reload to the F-ROM.
I've only done a ladder update on an 18M and there was no password required. Just loaded the new file from the PCMCIA Flash card to F-ROM. - Diamond
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A new problem to be solved with the Harrison or just trying to fine tune it to your needs ? Does Clausing not respond or simply refuses to say what the password is ? There is so much Harrison literature with that machine, I wonder if the secret word is buried in there somewhere ?
Usually a password like that is something that relates to the machine, like 'alpha' but not necessarily, as Romi used the word 'evening' for the C420 with Siemens...every time I type it in I cringe a little, thinking what an idiotic name to choose..not just because it has zero relationship to the machine, but because it requires the shift key on some of the letters. Perhaps the theory was the dumber the name the more it stands out in one's mind and can be remembered better. - Diamond
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That wasn't Romi. Seimens have 7 levels of user 'intervention' 'Evening' is about level 3 or 4. That will give you grid shift, absolute position, service engineer level stuff, etc. Thats still a stock standard Seimens pass word., They used sun or moon times, to be universally accepted. I'm pretty sure Sunset or Sunrise is the big one. I'm pretty sure it was Sunset that will let you in to level 7 which is just short of re-writeing the kernal.Originally Posted by Milacronbut not necessarily, as Romi used the word 'evening' for the C420 with Siemens...
They could assign a password as lame as 'noon,' for the guy that flipped an insert at about level 1 or 2 if you set it up that way (but you would need a higher level pass word to alter parameters to do it that way). Its very German
You didn't hear this from me / him.
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Some hacker pretending to be Phil.
None of which helps Ross. I've put out some feelers for a guy that used to work for the 600 group down here. He'd know, but he's not such a mate, more like this guy I've meet a few times. I'd put it about a %20 probablityLast edited by machtool; 10-09-2014 at 09:55 AM.
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Good to know that Siemens had similar/same passwords for more than the one control I was familiar with. Thanks.
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thanks all for the help so far...
As to the request, yes i want to change the ladder and i don't get any help from Clausing.
Not really a problem exactly except that part of the setup on the machine makes it almost unusable..want to see if i
can make that better.
Big problem is the 'safety' feature of having both an interlock on the chip enclosure door and also a guard over the chuck.
To mount a part one must open the enclosure , then open the chuck guard before being able to move the spindle by hand..
And all this must be done after the chuck stops rotating.
If you move the spindle without opening the chuck guard then the control faults to a condition that can't be cleared except by a re-boot..
The entire system is stupid!
Show me a real turning center that has a chuck guard!
I have a new chuck i wish to mount and that requires machining the backing plate..but...can't get to it because the chuck guard is in the way.
I think the engineers at Harrison were thinking about removing the cycle start buttons just to be sure..But cost restrictions killed that 'update'.
This is a flat bed programmable machine that can be run manually or auto...
I have a Romi at work (similar machine) and it has no chuck guard and it has the CE certs..
The Harrison setup clearly was designed by someone who never worked for a living making chips.
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Well i do not believe i need the password to load a completed ladder on the 21 either ..But to do any editing even off line with the proper software i need the password toOriginally Posted by VancbikerAh.. that makes a difference.
I've only done a ladder update on an 18M and there was no password required. Just loaded the new file from the PCMCIA Flash card to F-ROM.
allow access to the ladder and make changes.
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Very interesting.. well then I feel a little better about it knowing there was at least some logic to the nameOriginally Posted by machtoolThat wasn't Romi. Seimens have 7 levels of user 'intervention' 'Evening' is about level 3 or 4. That will give you grid shift, absolute position, service engineer level stuff, etc. Thats still a stock standard Seimens pass word., They used sun or moon times, to be universally accepted. I'm pretty sure Sunset or Sunrise is the big one. I'm pretty sure it was Sunset that will let you in to level 7 which is just short of re-writeing the kernal. - PMTCast Iron
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Did you try to load and decompile with the FAPT yet?
Doesn't the 21i have the edit feature at control? not sure how old it is. - Perry HarringtonTitanium
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Well, if you are editing offline, the password has to be included somewhere in the file for it to compare/require. I seriously doubt there is any hardcore obfuscation of the password in the file.
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We had a fanuc tech in taking a look at our new lathe with a Oi-TD control. He needed to look at the ladder to find something. When prompted for the password to view the ladder he thought for a second and just typed the letter L and bam was in. Don't know if that will help but its what worked on our machine.
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